PPC Scenario 4 - Schemes of War

Hey all,

Time is closing in on the next update of the PPC Comp pack, and this time we will have another PPC Scenario added to it.

During playtesting, we've had a blast with this scenario, and hopefully you will too. If you have any comments on it, please do so we can improve it even further!

The Gaunt Summoner

I've taken a look at the Gaunt Summoner rules now, and would appreciate some input.

The description says it always comes with a Book of Profane Secrets, but we're thinking about making it an upgrade anyway due to the nature of the ability.

So please let me know which you prefer:

Archaon and Varanguard

Just a heads up on the new Everchosen models. They will be included in the next version of the PPC, coming in about two weeks from now.

For those of you who don't want to wait that long, here are the calculated points costs for them:

Charity Tournament in Calgary, Canada!

Hi all!

Some days ago it came to our attention that some fine folk in Calgary, Canada, had organized a tournament of Warmahordes, 40k and Age of Sigmar, and that they were using the PPC (1500 pts) for the event.

The reason behind the tournament was to help raising funds to build a proper playground in one of Calgary's elementary schools. What a fantastic event for a fantastic cause!

BattleScribe Updated With Missing Orcs

Just a small update today on the BattleScribe file, thanks to gnaleinad's keen eyes.
It was missing the entries of Skarsnik, Night Goblin Warboss, and NG Warboss on Cave Squig. Those are now added.

Possible Rules Addition Vote

Hey all,

As most of you know, we like to keep the rules alterations as small as possible in the PPC. There is one issue that might need to be adressed in the upcoming version of the comp, an issue that can ruin many a games and by the looks of it from different forums often does so.

Seraphon army list added

It's time for Seraphon to have their very own list...which basically is the same as the Lizardmen with a few name changes and a Skink hero added.

Please note that there are some changes coming up pointswise for both Lizardmen and Seraphon, but since we will update all lists at the same time later on, those changes are not yet implemented in this list.

Find the Seraphon list HERE!

The Empire Unit Cards Uploaded

I've uploaded unit cards of the entire Empire army list today. Check them out here!

I've decided to not include any PPC costs on the cards - so they are more usable to people not using the system. I've also updated the Stormcast and Bloodbound to these new versions without costs.

BattleScribe file updated

Hi all,

I noticed some more "0 points" entries in the BattleScribe file, that I've fixed alongside a few other bugs. I've gone through all lists again now, so there shouldn't be any more units costing 0 points.

Find the BattleScribe file here.

Fixes:

Small BattleScribe update

Hi,

Made a small update to the BattleScribe file today, as it turned out that the Khorne Bloodbound list had three models listed at costing 0 pts, which I found was just a bit too cheap for them :)

The new file is in the PPC Section.

BattleScribe Files Uploaded!

Cheers all!

Here's a treat for all list builders out there. I've transfered all points costs as of 2015.11 into a BattleScribe file.

PPC has gone stable!

Hi,

I am Attilla, the main coordinator behind the Project Points Cost, or PPC for short. 

It is my great pleasure to announce that we have finally reached what we believe is the first truly stable version of the PPC points and comp rules!  We will from now on name our versions according to the date it was updated, current version is now 2015.11.

Tomb Kings and Wood Elves updated to v0.6

The final two regular army lists have been updated to v0.6 with Tomb Kings and Wood Elves!

Find the lists HERE!

For the next iteration of the lists, all command options will be examined closer and tweaked in points where due. Each list will also get a facelift and will be considered v1.0 after that!

PPC Comp Pack updated!

Second post this evening - getting busy! :)

We just updated the PPC Comp Pack to v0.3. You can find it HERE as always.

Major Changes for v0.3:

WoC and Skaven updated to v0.6

Cheers!

Today saw the update of the Warriors of Chaos and Skaven lists to 0.6.

Find the lists HERE!

Orcs & Goblins updated to v0.6.

Finally some time for hobby again! Due to work and private stuff I've had less time the past weeks, but that should be solved by now :)

Today the O&G got updated to v0.6, and can be found HERE!

Three lists updated to v0.6!

Hi all!

High Elves, Lizardmen, and Vampire Counts have been updated to v0.6 as of today!

There aren't many surprises in these lists, other than some monsters having their cost raised pretty massively. But if anyone's played those monsters, it shouldn't really come as a surprise after all. :)

Some units have been tweaked up or down a few points, as have some heroes. Many units are still found stable at their current prices, and ranged units still cost about the same now that we're about to remove Screening and penalties from shooting into/out of melee.

As always, let us know if you find anything odd!

And, as always, find the lists HERE!

Daemons of Chaos updated to v0.6!

One of the big lists updated! The Daemons of Chaos is now v0.6, and includes points for Skarbrand, a true bada** for sure!

Many changes and tweaks are based on reports to the PPC team, and others are in pure comparison versus units and monsters from other army lists.

Thanks for all contributions to this and other lists, and as always - if you find something we've missed or something you don't agree with, let us know what and why and we'll check it out!

Get the updated list HERE!

Another Comp Rule Bites the Dust!

In the spirit of not changing Age of Sigmar any more than absolutely neccessary, another rule will go away when the PPC hits v0.3.

Some days ago we discussed the to be or not to be of penalties when firing into and out of melee. It used to be at a -1 to hit to do so, but it was decided that we no longer need that addition.

Skarbrand points cost

Hi!

Although Daemons of Chaos is up next for the v0.6 treatment, here's the points cost for Skarbrand in the mean time:

Skarbrand           850 pts

Dark Elves list has been updated to v0.6

Today saw the Dark Elf list updated, with its monster's costs tweaked according to how monsters perform and their stats throughout different lists. Therer are also lots of other small tweaks in the list, and the infantry that benefits from being 20+ models have had their cost increased for adding many models, similar to other lists.

Cheers!

Unit Cards for Khorne Bloodbound!

The Unit Cards section of this site has been updated with the v0.6 version of the Khorne Bloodbound.

Find them here.

Khorne Bloodbound updated to v0.6b

Right after the Bloodbound list was updated to 0.6, GW released their Bloodbound Tome with the Khorne units gathered. For this reason we've updated the Bloodbound list to 0.6b, and include the rest of the Khorne units in the same list.

Find all lists here as usual.

A small request...

Good evening (Swedish time!)

It has come to my attention that there have been some tournaments going on around the globe that uses the PPC, and it's extremely pleasant to hear that all you fine people are using the system for both casual and semi-competetive games!

We do have a small request for anyone reading this, and that is to send us footage of your games using the PPC, be it in a tournament or just casual play. I'd love to put it up on the blog for others to read and enjoy.

So grab that camera, write a few (or many!) words about it and send it to attillaq3 at gmail.com!
It would be very appreciated!

Cheers!

Bloodbound and Ogre Kingdoms are now v0.6!

Howdy!

Got the Ogres and Khornes updated today.

Khorne Bloodbound has been pretty stable actually, with some minor tweaks.

Shooting into and out of melee

As time goes by and more games have been played using the PPC Composition rules, things inside the package needs to be re-evaluated from time to time.

There are now discussions on our Dakkadakka thread about removing the -1 to hit penalty for shooting into and out of melee.

Unit Cards for all released Stormcasts!

Cheers!

I took a paus in updating army lists today, and made unit cards for all Stormcast Eternals currently released by Games Workshop. They carry all  gameplay info, and come in the size of a Magic the Gathering card.

The Empire list has been updated to v0.6!

The Empire list has reached its most stable status so far in its update to v0.6.

Bretonnia updated to v0.6

Like the title says, the Bretonnian list has been updated to v0.6. There are just a few tweaks with this version, that is now to be considered stable.

The biggest change is a major increase in points for the big man King Louen, as he is one mean monster when compared to others.

Find the list here.

Beastmen updated to v0.6!

The Beastmen list has been updated to v0.6. This means it has become stable, and will stay this way for some time now (unless we encounter something we've missed that needs to be fixed soon, of course).

This version has seen many points tweaks, especially for its monsters.

You can find the v0.6 Beastmen list here.

Stormcast Eternals are now v0.6b

As Games Workshop releases new models for each new faction, we will update their lists as soon as possible with the point costs of these new models.

This means that new factions will often be updated with new versions using letters, to note that its not one of the major overhauls of the list, but just a minor.

Knight-Vexillor and Knight-Heraldor have been added to the Stormcast list in v0.6b. Find the list here!

Hobby: Rebasing Empire and objective

Cheers,

Here's another hobby post - gotta have a few of them as well to keep my sanity :)

I've begun rebasing an Empire army I'll either play with or lend out to friends. So far I've rebased a small warband of about 500 pts, that will go to war against the Vampire Counts I've posted earlier (here). The bases are not yet finished, but here they are at this stage, along with an objective area:

Stormcast Eternals now v0.6

Stormcast Eternals have been updated to v0.6!
This version includes tweaks to the cost of some units, and the addition of the newly released models such as the Celestant-Prime and the new Prosecutor models.

Dwarf list updated to v0.6!

Cheers all!

I have now updated the Dwarfs to v0.6. This version is to be considered stable when it comes to points costs set by algorithm. But as we all know, a formula can not be 100% accurate all of the time, so from now on we will change any unit that needs to change from playtest reports. This means it is very important that you tell us anything you can about this list in play - be it something you have found to be balanced, or something you have found to be not so balanced.

ALL INPUT ON THE PPC IS ALWAYS WELCOME AND WELL RECEIVED!

So, exactly what has changed for v0.6?

Tweaking summoning costs

Hi everyone!

The time has come to finally tweak the summoning costs of the PPC, in accordance to the odds of actually getting the spell off and how many points you can summon with the spell.

To let you in on how I will work this out, I've taken some time to write the procedure down for you. This is very important to me, as summoning is one of the hottest debates in the AoS game! Some think summoning is way to overpowered, while others think it should be free. The way I describe below will be the goal of this tweak - if any cost is to change later on, it will be from reports of actual gameplay and not by theoryhammering. :)

Forgeworld Lists Have Been Added!

Good thing my better half is out of town this weekend, as I could squeeze in both Legions of Azgorh and Tamurkhan's Horde today then! :)

You can find these two new lists HERE!

The Wood Elves list is now v0.5!

You can find the updated list HERE, as usual.

That concludes all v0.5 lists! The coming days, I will make the Forge World lists, and then tweak the costs of summoning spells and monsters for v0.6. I will also check some warmachine costs, since I have had reports that they perform too well for their costs in many cases.

Sneak Peak of possible future project for the PPC

Cheers all!

I thought you might be interested in seeing something I'd like to make for all lists, once the points costs have been stabilized abit more:

Warriors of Chaos turns v0.5!

Warriors of Chaos have been updated to v0.5 now.

This means only Wood Elves are left before this update is finished.

Find them HERE!

As there has been some interest in the Legion of Azghor and Tamurkhan's Horde,

Lizardmen update to v0.5.

Another big list updated!

Lizardmen has hit v0.5, which means the infantry and cavalry options have been weighed against other armies' infantry choices and should now costs accordingly.

Summoning spells now costs like the other major armies that summons their units. However, all summoning costs will be further tweaked once all lists have been updated to v0.5.

Bretonnia updated to v0.5!

Another list done, three more to go. Bretonnia has become v0.5 now!

Find it HERE!

High Elves v0.5 is up!

Cheers all!

Been some busy days at work, but finally managed to get the High Elves updated to v0.5!

HERE you are :)

Ogre Kingdoms & Tomb Kings updated to v0.5!

Ogre Kingdoms and Tomb Kings has been updated to the latest version. Only a few more to go before all lists are v0.5!


You probably know where to find the updated lists by now...
... if not, click HERE!

Small corrections and tweaks to Daemons and Vampire Counts

Just two small updates for two existing v0.5 lists:

Daemons of Chaos

It has been pointed out that the Daemons of Chaos list contained an error with the Plaguebearer's cost. 30 Plaguebearers should cost 280p, not 290p. This has been fixed and the DoC list is now 0.5b.

The Next Stages of the PPC

G'evening!

The update to v0.5 is halfway through now. This update focused mainly on the balance between units of infantry and cavalry. Other units/heroes/monsters/warmachines have had their cost increased or decreased as well during this update, but not with the same focus. Once v0.5 is complete, the next steps of the PPC will be:

Daemons of Chaos updated to v0.5!

The time has come for the Daemons to get their v0.5 up.

Get the new version HERE!

Khorne Bloodbound Updated to v0.5

The Khorne Bloodbound list has now been updated to v0.5, and includes the Reaver weapon options and the new Exalted Deathbringer!

Find all army lists here!

Dwarfs updated to v0.5!

Allright guys and gals,

The Dwarfs have gotten their list updated to v0.5!

Find it HERE!

Forgeworld's rules for AoS Chaos Dwarves

If you, like me, think the Chaos Dwarfs from FW are some really nice models, and have a hard time convincing yourself not to buy them, it's going to be even harder now! Because if you own some of them, you can try them out in Age of Sigmar with the release of their rules from Forgeworld!

The Empire v0.5 up!

Our next list is up. This time we've taken a look at the Empire list, and created alot more balance in many of its units, compared to the other v0.5 lists.

Find the lists HERE!

Vampire Counts on the Cheap!

Time for a small paus in the updating army list business, to actually enjoy the hobby itself for abit! :)

Right before WFB 8th got whacked we had plans of starting Kings of War as well as WFB. Since I wanted to play Undead in both games I went out and got alot of Mantic Undead miniatures...

Beastmen v0.5 is done!

Not much to add besides that title - you can now find the v0.5 of the Beastmen in the PPC area, HERE!

Now time for The Empire to reach v0.5. After that, I'm open for suggestions if you have an army you'd like me to update next.

Cheers!

O&G Error...

DOH!

I just noticed I put a typo for the Orcs in v0.5... the Orcs do not cost +3 pts/model, but rather +6pts.
Hence v0.5b is up now with the corrected value ;)

Sorry for that, fellows!

On to making the Beastmen list! If anyone wants me to do a particular list after them, please let me know in the comment section and I'll make it so.

Orcs & Goblins v0.5 released

Today the O&G got updated to v0.5.

In this version, many units have been tweaked up and down in points. 

We have also continued the trend of gradually increasing the cost for large units, if the unit become better with increasing numbers of models.

Find all lists HERE!

PPC Comp Pack v0.2 released!

The PPC Composition Pack just got a well needed facelift!

It has had some rules clarified, and the three scenarios added...and just looks alot better :)

Official PPC Scenario 3 - Cleanse

Hi everyone!

Here's the third and final of three official PPC scenarios for use with the PPC Comp and its army lists. Consider this scenario a draft, and please comment on anything you feel need to change on the dakkadakka thread here.

Cheers!

Vampire Counts v0.5 up!

Allright, the time has come for the Vampire Counts to recieve their place in the v0.5 league. In this version, we see changes to alot of the units, some have gone up and others have dropped. The great monsters have all been raised, but that has been the way of all army lists for v0.5 so far, so no big surprise there.

We also continue the new way of pricing infantry that gets better with higher numbers. You will find that large units of zombies or skeletons cost proportionally more than smaller units, as they benefit from some nasty bonuses in larger numbers. Remember that this is still a trial for the prices - and I would appreciate feedback after trying it out for a few games.

There have also been some changes in the costs of summoning spells, that I think will be slightly more appropriate.

Find all lists HERE!

Cheers!

Update to scenario 1 - Capture

I've made a small clarification to the first scenario; you are not supposed to be able to hold more than one objective zone with one unit. So it's not possible to create a 100 model large unit and claim several objectives ;)

The scenario can be found by clicking here.

Stormcast Eternals v0.5, and Skaven v0.5b

Good evening (around here anyway)!

Today sees the update of Stormcast Eternals to v0.5. This also means the addition of Decimators and Protectors to the list.

A few people have pointed out some typos in the Skaven list for Clanrats and Giant Rats, and we took the opportunity to revise those entries. The Skaven list is now v0.5b for that reason.

Find the lists HERE as usual!

Now off to keep working the Vampire Counts list. It will hopefully be ready for release tomorrow!

Cheers

Official PPC Scenario 2 - Battle Royale

Hello!

Here's the second of three official PPC scenarios for use with the PPC Comp and its army lists. Consider this scenario a draft, and please comment on anything you feel need to change on the dakkadakka thread here.

Cheers!

PPC Scenario 2 – Battle Royale

Setup

- Roll a dice to determine the deployment:

1-2: Battleline
Each player deploys up to 12” from the long table edge.

3-4: Hammer and Anvil
Each player deploys up to 24” from the short table edge.

5-6: Meeting Engagement
Each player deploys up to 12” from the short table edge, and up to 12” into half the long.

Time Length

Battle Royale uses a random turn limit. At the end of the 6th turn, roll a dice:

• if the dice shows a result of 1-3, the battle ends. Count any victory points as described in Victory Conditions.
• On a roll of 4-6, there is a final 7th turn, after which victory points is calculated as described in the scenario played.

Victory Conditions

To win this scenario, you must destroy as much of the enemy force as possible:

•  Any unit of up to 200 pts is worth 2 victory points when destroyed, or 1 victory point if more than 50% wounds have been removed.
• Any unit of more than 200 pts, but less than 400 pts is worth 3 victory points when destroyed, or 1 VP if more than 50% wounds have been removed.
• Any unit of more than 400 pts is worth 4 victory points if destroyed, or 2 VPs if more than 50% wounds have been removed.

You can also achieve bonus victory points for the following:

• Slay the General: If you have slain the enemy general, you gain another +2 victory points.
• Linebreaker: If you have a unit completely within 6” of the enemy battlefield edge, you gain another +2 victory points. This is the long edge for the Battleline setup, and the short edge of the other two setups.

Tournament Play

This scenario can be used as one of three missions from the PPC Comp for tournaments, in which case there is one additional point to know before play:

• If you score both Slay the General and Linebreaker, you gain 1 Tie Breaker Point.
• After a tournament, if two or more players score the same total victory points, the player with the most Tie Breaker Points wins.

Big update for the Skaven, v0.5!

The time has come for the Skaven army list to be closer looked at. Inside v0.5 you will find plenty of adjustments made to models. Some have become cheaper, others have gone up in price. Many units have had their equipment options added.

You will also notice that some units, such as the Clan Rats, have different prices depending on how many models you have in the unit. This is the new way of doing it, to make sure each unit costs according to what it can perform on the battlefield. All v0.5 lists will use this for any units that provide good bonuses in large quantities.

You can find the lists HERE!

Which army list should I finish to v0.5 next...

Official PPC Scenario 1 - Capture

Hi!

Here's the first of three official PPC scenarios for use with the PPC Comp and its army lists. Consider this scenario a draft, and please comment on anything you feel need to change.

Cheers!

Dark Elves v0.5!

Hello!

You can now find 0.5th version of the Dark Elves army list in the PPC section.


The update to v0.5 will be the biggest so far, as it means going through each army list in detail, closely examining each unit, rather than entering all data into an excel sheet and print out the value given.

Expect it to take some time to finish this update for all the lists. If you want me to work on a particular army as soon as possible, let me know and I'll make it my next one. Otherwise I'll go through them at random, finishing whichever I feel like at the moment :)

As always, the lists can be found HERE, and the dakkadakka discussion is here.

Next stage of development

Heads up on the next stage of general PPC development:

* Key units will be cross-referenced using a new formula (credits to Andreas 2.0 and GuitaRasmus on dakkadakka)

* The Comp doc will be updated to v0.2, with some clarifications and three added scenarios that can be combined for tournament play.

* Individual units will recieve a check to ensure each unit has its worth inside the faction. They will then be cross-referenced to other lists to create better external balance between different lists.

Any opinions and comments are as always welcome!

All armies updated to v0.4

All army lists are now compatible with the PPC Comp! Click HERE to download the lists.

Remember to post any opinions, praise, and criticism in our dakkadakka thread - your input is what makes this project advance!

Dakkadakka points cost thread

Another four lists updated to v0.4

Daemons of Chaos, Empire, Dwarfs, and High Elves have been updated for the new PPC Comp format. This means that the first of the summoning armies have had their summoning spells adjusted according to the comp.

The Daemons can upgrade any of their chaos wizards with one or more spells that lets you summon a unit worth a certain amount of points. For example, upgrading a wizard with the "Lesser Summoning" enables the wizard to summon a unit worth up to 100 pts, with a casting value of 7. Should you want the really heavy stuff, you instead upgrade with "The Grand Invocation", that has a casting value of 10 but lets you summon 200 pts worth of models!

You can find these new lists HERE!


Please try it out and comment on it, either here on on the dakkadakka thread:
Dakkadakka Comp Thread

Five lists updated to v0.4

As of now, the Stormcasts, Bloodbound, Beastmen, Bretonnia, and Dark Elves, have been updated to comply with the PPC Comp document. This means that any ranged weapons in these lists may be used in melee as well.

Find all lists HERE.

Monster costs

I discovered something strange today with my base stats excel sheet. For some time now it has looked like brutal units with lots of damage, such as monsters and monstrous infantry,  didn't cost properly. They simply murdered any infantry they attacked. This has been reported by many on the forums and through mail as well.

I have been going through my formula, scratching my head a few times, but today I found the error! A small + sign instead of the correct * in the excel sheet was the joker. I have since gone through most army lists again, and high wound, high damage monsters sure have gone up in cost all across the board. And not in a small way. In fact, I rather hope these new points are alittle too high, to end the reign of monsters. Please let me know about it when v0.4 hits the blog. I would rather decrease some monster costs than keep raising them.

On a side note, I have been offered to use a basic stats formula of some nice Danish people to cross-reference to that of my own. While this will naturally take more time, a cross-reference will in the end benefit the PPC with better accuracy. This will be made to the v0.5 versions, as v0.4 is about the monster costs and making all ranged weapons cost according to the new PPC comp.

But the best points costs accuracy will always come from trying and testing in actual battles, so lets game! :)

Using GDrive from now on, not Dropbox

I have noticed that it is hard sometimes to access the lists from Dropbox. I have transferred them all to my Google Drive instead, and linked them from there. That should hopefully work better for everyone!

Release of the PPC Comp doc v0.1!

The PPC Comp document v0.1 is released! You can find it in the header above... or if you're lazy, just click HERE ;)

Blogging time!

You might notice a few changes here on the blog; I put all important documents at the top header, so it will be easy to find at any times. 

This will leave the actual blog open to... well to actual blogging. Expect to see updates on the project, as well as batreps and other stuff here in the future. 

Cheers!

(PPC) Age of Sigmar - Warmachine Prime

Age of Sigmar

Warmachine PPC

This page has moved...

... to HERE!

Age of Sigmar PPC Points Costs Lists

This page has moved...

...to HERE!

Discussing the upcoming PPC comp rules

A thread has been created on the dakkadakka forum to discuss how we should improve the gameplay of the PPC set by applying a few fixes and limitations. Something to keep in mind though; the less we mess, the better we're off :)

Here is the link to the thread: Dakkadakka PPC Comp

Welcome to the Age of Sigmar Project Points Cost!

So, the newest Warhammer game called Age of Sigmar is about to be released...

We've been following this game from the earliest rumours, and while we're sad to see the old Fantasy Battles go away, we still can't help but feel excited for what is to come!

When the rulebook and army lists became available, we immidiately downloaded and read like maniacs through them, only to notice what so many had feared - there are NO points cost for any units! I know, I know, it's about narrative gaming and Sudden Death scenarios, but that is not in any way how we want to play our wargames.

Therefor, we immidiately set out to make sure each and every unit had a proper points cost allocated to them. And although there are still plenty of work left, our test games have so far felt balanced, and REALLY fun as well!

Starting very soon, we will begin publishing the points cost for every faction on this newly created blog, as it seems there are lots of others screaming out for this. Once published, we are very open for suggestions and criticism, so be sure to comment away! As far as we are concerned, this is a project best made together in the Warhammer community!